Please help the struggle to restore the NHS. ‘People power’ can change government policies, and the current neoliberal, pro-privatisation, pro-business policies are at the root of the problems in our hospitals, in our GP practices and in social care. Write to your MPs, write to your councillors, raise it in your union branch, make the NHS the talk of the town, of the streets, of the communities, of the workforces.
Look out for the public meeting that will be held.
Stay safe and keep warm. Put the heating on.
Restore the NHS as a fully public service, funded and staffed for all our mothers, daughters, sisters, friends, lovers, and every baby.
Restore the NHS as a fully public service, funded and staffed for all people.
We are the Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital Campaign. In this post, we are asking our supporters to also support the urgent initiatives from other organisations. The damage to Liverpool Women’s Hospital is symptomatic of all the problems of our NHS, and we fight for the whole NHS.
“As we go marching, marching we battle too for men for they are women’s children and we mother them again”.
The staff and patients are feeling the harm done.
Our local hospitals are in the crisis which we warned about repeatedly, which was predicted, and anticipated. And all the while there were multiple meetings about how to make financial cuts (CIPs),and implement unprecedented (and we think, harmful) financial restrictions and huge reorganisation plans, not to deal with the winter crisis, nor the infant mortality issues, or the gynaecology waiting times, nor birth trauma, but to close services.
The winter crisis was and is avoidable. Capacity should have been built into the system. If Covid taught us one thing it was that we must have emergency capacity. Building capacity means planning well in advance in areas like staffing, in space and equipment, in funding, involving both hospital and community health provision, in action to employ more GPs,in making schools healthier, in mobilising all public services, and if necessary taking over private hospital capacity. Health campaigners have raised this in written and oral questions repeatedly since 2023, more than a year ago. The response was that this winter would be (according to the CEO of the ICB) “…slightly more austere than the previous two years.” The managers of the NHS, nationally and locally, knew what was coming this winter.
The future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital is in grave danger. Please sign our petition here if you have not already done so. Thankfully, LWH is still there and not (yet) fully merged with the other hospitals. Imagine pregnant women in 50 hour waits in A and E, as is happening today in Cheshire and Merseyside.
We raised all this repeatedly with the ICB, but the government made them follow Price Waterhouse Cooper’s cuts agenda, and didn’t that work well ? Fifty damn hours in the A and E!
Do not blame the flu! Do not blame the elders for staying too long in hospital. Privatising social care was a huge blunder. Impoverishing local authorities was a huge blunder.
lobbying the ICB, last winter!!
Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital is one of many organisations fighting to win the NHS back to its true potential, back to being the best in the world.
It is our NHS . Our great grandmothers, and grandfathers fought long and hard for it and won it. For seven decades, we paid for it, invested in it, grew it. For years people voted Labour because of the NHS.
Women hold up half the sky, but 76% of the NHS. The NHS patient facing workforce is massively female, and we thank them for their skill, dedication, humour, and sheer hard graft. The NHS must become a better place to work. Enough is Enough with workplace stress in the NHS. We need more staff and we need to retain those we have. We need education for our NHS to be free.
Women’s health is damaged by more than a decade of neglect.
A Parliamentary report last month spoke of “Medical Misogyny”. The report said women were being left in pain and discomfort that “interferes with every aspect of their daily lives, including their education, careers, relationships and fertility, while their conditions worsen.“
We have a new(ish) Labour Government, after years of deliberate damage to the NHS from the Conservative and Coalition Governments. The trade unions, women’s organisations and the Labour Party fought for universal healthcare, publicly funded, and universally available, and won that battle. The NHS was a major reason to vote Labour as this region did in huge numbers. Yet Labour is throwing vastly more NHS money to the private sector.
We need another mass movement for the NHS to make this government listen.
Privatisation causes pain and harm in healthcare as it has in the railways, in water, in the post office, in royal mail, in telecoms, on the buses, in the power industry, in power, wherever it has touched public services. Private health care in the USA is a cruel, heartless scandal, but it costs the US government twice as much per head as the NHS costs the UK.
We need the billions Streeting is giving to the private sector in our hospitals.
Please sign this petition from “We Own it”. No to billions to the private sector while the NHS struggles.
Private hospitals use the same staff pool as does the NHS. We need more doctors midwives, nurses and other ( fully qualified!) medical professionals in the NHS, not in private hospitals. Private hospitals are not better, not safer, not well regulated, not actually the employers of their surgeons who need private insurance which can randomly be denied.
We oppose privatisation through the new ‘Big Data’ industries. See this shocking post from Keep our NHS Public research about Data.
We say no to privatisation in the NHS, no to the government giving billions to private hospitals. Buy the damn hospitals and put them into proper public service.
What is happening with Liverpool Women’s Hospital in December 2024?
Liverpool Women’s Hospital is under a very serious and utterly ridiculous threat. Please see our suggestions here for how to support keeping the hospital open and better funded on Crown Street. This winter the Royal and Aintree are both overcrowded.
“Stables wanted for the birth of Liverpool babies when they close Liverpool Women’s Hospital”.
Imagine 7,000 babies and their mums and midwives crammed into the already overcrowded Royal? Will our babies be born on the corridors along with the very poorly people?
The fight goes on to Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital as a tertiary hospital on its own site run for women and babies. 76,000 people say so.
We are organising a public meeting with Kim Johnson MP in January and will continue with all the rest of our campaign work. Please help if you can. We especially want to talk to women’s organisations and union branches with big female membership
The future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital is in the balance. There is huge public support for keeping the hospital open and on the Crown Street site, our petition both on line and on paper is growing steadily and is already more than 76,000 signatures.
A Parliamentary report this week spoke of “Medical Misogyny”. The report said women were being left in pain and discomfort that “interferes with every aspect of their daily lives”, including their education, careers, relationships and fertility, while their conditions worsen.“
It also found there to be a “clear lack of awareness and understanding of women’s reproductive health conditions among primary healthcare practitioners” and concluded that gynaecological care is not being treated as a priority.
Pervasive stigma associated with gynaecological and urogynaecological health, a lack of education and “medical misogyny” has contributed to poor awareness of these conditions.
In this situation the closure of the hospital that provides all of Liverpool’s gynaecology care is crazy.
The maternity crisis nationally continues, yet they talk of closing our maternity hospital.
We also keep asking “Where will our babies be born?”
How can we keep a tertiary specialist hospital for women if they close the building, or scatter the services?
There are two big threats.
The trust has formed a committee with Liverpool University Foundation Trust( The Royal Aintree and Broadgreen. We fear that the needs of women and babies will disappear as women’s health and maternity have been neglected in the other big hospitals. So far all the services remain at Crown Street. The first joint meeting has been held. We are not aware of a maternity expert being on this committee. Certainly, men dominate the leading positions.
The ICB is a separate move that has finished an initial “public engagement “ over their plans to for the future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital. This is the first legal step towards closure or merger. We are preparing a detailed response to their plans. At all the public meetings the plans were robustly condemned.
At the ICB board in November we asked
Lobbying the ICB
“Re LWH & Women’s services, re the reporting process from the ‘engagements’ about the future of maternity and Gynaecology services in Liverpool Hospitals.
Why was the ‘independent firm’ not at any of the events? If they are writing the report including those meetings they will only have the ICB reporting on themselves.
How much is the firm getting paid & how much has it cost ICB staff time etc. for these events?
What is the timetable for receiving the results of the report & next steps
How will our petition be recognised by the engagement?
They answered.
As per best practice with an engagement exercise of this sort, NHS Cheshire and Merseyside commissioned an independent organisation – Hood & Woolf – to design and host the engagement questionnaire, collate and analyse responses to it, and to undertake an analysis and report on the feedback across all the different strands of our engagement activity. The report will include a description of the engagement activity undertaken, a summary of the findings, and the key themes, ideas, issues and concerns that have been heard over the six-week period. Analysing data – especially when there are large quantities of qualitative feedback – is a specialist skill, and it is standard practice for us to bring inexternal specialist support to carry this out. Hood & Woolf’s role did not include collecting feedback at engagement events. This is a task routinely carried out by our inhouse team when we are undertaking public engagement, even when the analysis is being supported externally. There was a dedicated note-taker (a member of NHS Cheshire and Merseyside staff) for each of the tables at all events (for the two online events, which had fewer participants, there was a single note-taker who took all the feedback). Their role was to literally take notes of the conversation, not to interpret it in any way. Each original, full set of notes will be provided to Hood & Woolf for them to analyse key themes and areas of discussion, so that this can be summarised in the report. It is important to be clear that the events were only one way in which we were collecting feedback during the engagement. Participants at the events were reminded that even though they had attended an event, it was still important that they completed the main engagement questionnaire. A QR code taking people straight to the questionnaire, and printed versions for those who were not able to complete the questionnaire online, were made available at the events to support this.
Our response to this will be detailed in a later post but we do not think the note-taking was independent or sufficiently detailed.
How much is the firm getting paid & how much has it cost ICB staff time etc. for these events?The core costs for Hood & Woolf’s work are in the region of £24,000.We have not broken down the cost of ICB staff time for this engagement exercise – the work was led by our in-house communications and engagement team, and no additional staffing costs were incurred. However, this has been a significant piece of work for the team, and for others in the organisation, both in terms of planning and delivery. ICBs have a legal duty to involve people, and we are committed to allocating the level of time and resource that this requires. In addition, the Women’s Hospital Services in Liverpool programme is a key organisational priority, and it is critical that we carry out comprehensive engagement with our communities to inform the next stage of work.
What is the timetable for receiving the results of the report & next steps?Work to begin analysing the feedback we’ve received is already underway and will continue over the coming weeks, however it’s important to note that we are still in the process of compiling feedback (for example, questionnaires provided in languages other than English will need to be translated before they can be included). Publishing the report and sharing findings with those who took part in the engagement is an important part of the process, and we plan to do this once the report is finalised and taken through our governance meetings and process. We are likely to be ready to publish the report and details of next steps during March 2025, but we will provide further confirmation on this nearer the time. ( our emphasis)
How will our petition be recognised by the engagement? ( At the last public meeting, the petition was spoken about with disrespect.) The petition was raised and discussed on a number of occasions during the engagement events. We are aware of and have heard the strength of feeling and different views people have shared, and we are grateful for the contributions people have given to our discussions. As stated, the information recorded during table discussions will beanalysed as part of the process of developing the engagement report. With regard to the petition itself, that too will be noted in the engagement report.
The Cheshire and Merseyside Integrated Care Board and the Winter Crisis
In this post, we will report on the winter crisis, and in another post, we will report on their plans for Liverpool Women’s Hospital (both an utter disgrace).
Humans have the “inalienable right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. The right to life must include the right to medical treatment when we are ill.
The NHS must again become a great place to work. NHS staff are working hard in unreasonably difficult situations, overcrowded hospitals are just adding to the crisis. CIPs (cuts)that are being so rigorously imposed must impact on staffing, as 80% of the cost of the NHS is staffing
The Royal College of Nurses say “According to the NMC’s leavers survey, nursing staff cite poor physical and mental health, burnout or exhaustion, and changes in personal circumstances as key reasons for leaving nursing outside of retirement
The BMA say that staff must be supported in this crisis. They have produced a checklist that will help see staff through the winter, if it is all introduced.
1.Communicate honestly with patients about pressures
2 Retain staff and maximise workforce capacity
3.Cut red tape, stop unhelpful targets and barriers and reduce unnecessary bureaucratic workload
4 Taking additional measures to maximising workforce capacity
(This was not mentioned in the ICB response to our questions.)
The ICB is the ruling body of the NHS in Cheshire and Merseyside.
There was no research background to the introduction of these bodies, they are instruments of the privatisation agenda. For more information see here. It is our view that these institutions are not failing but succeeding in aims which are not conducive to good healthcare, aims like cutting services, denying care and remodelling on US corporation lines.
The NHS too often consults private corporations rather than the staff and the public, yet this institution belongs to the people. No one has ever won an election on a promise to privatise or starve the NHS of funds.
The state of our Accident and Emergency departments and the emergency care system in our health service is disgraceful, but the situation has been known about and discussed for many, many months. The years of austerity were supposed to change with the election and the trashing of the Conservative vote, but instead the situation this winter, (according to the CEO of the ICB) “will be slightly more austere than the previous two years”.
NHS Campaigners regularly sit in the public gallery of the ICB, read the papers before the meeting, and ask questions. We have been asking about preparing for and improving the response to the winter crisis for more than a year. We have asked written and oral questions at the ICB meetings. Again and again, the response means we will see once again awful patient, family and staff experiences this winter.
We sent in further questions to the November Board Meeting of the Cheshire and Merseyside ICB about;
The winter crisis,
The Future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital,
Marie Curie Hospice,
At the start of the meeting, the questions are read out and answered. We get a chance to say a little.
Winter comes every single year without fail, so hospitals should not need special arrangements to cope. The preventable deaths, overcrowded hospitals, bursting A and E departments, and the long Ambulance waiting times were entirely predictable and undoubtedly preventable.
Long waits for elective (non-emergency care) are huge 7.5 million cases,(6,341,717 people).Flare ups for these patients send them too into the Accident and Emergency hospitals. Elective care has been funded separately from Acute and Emergency Care but the two kinds of care should never be put into competition with each other. Hopefully, Streeting’s instructions to hospitals to keep patients safe might signal a weakening of the strict demarcation of funding.
In 2023 The Royal College of Emergency Medicine reported that “RCEM estimates that there were almost 14,000 associated excess deaths related to waits of 12 hours or longer in 2023 – more than 268 a week.”
Mr Starmer, the Prime Minister, the person with the power to bring change, quoted those figures in a speech on 12th September 2024. He said “That’s not just a source of fear and anxiety, it’s leading to thousands of avoidable deaths. That phrase ‘avoidable deaths’ should always be chilling. That’s people’s loved ones who could’ve been saved”.
And yet we still face a worse prospect this winter, and it’s not just to do with the flu. By all means, get your flu jab but this situation was predicted at ICB meetings all year.
When we, as members of the public, go to the ICB meetings, we do not expect miracles. We go there to keep the original aims of the NHS alive if only as the voice of protest at what is happening to the NHS, happening this winter of 2024/2025, in our area and others.
The key issues at this meeting were the Liverpool Women’s Hospital, the Winter Crisis, Finance, (which is central to the situation and is hugely troubled), infection control, Celiac products on prescription (yes more cuts), and the shared committee with Lancs and South Cumbria ICB (about closing one of the A and Es in Southport or Ormskirk and meriting 82 mentions in the board papers), and discharge of patients.
For obscure reasons, the merger of 5 Liverpool Hospitals was not discussed.
What we want
We want a publicly owned, Government funded publicly delivered health service for all. Investment in healthcare makes the people, and hence the whole country, healthier wealthier, and happier. We want to return to the Bevan Model of healthcare. The Bevan model is cheaper and more equitable, more cost-efficient but it does not make big profit for the hated US health corporations.
The Bevan model comprises; A universal service, for every human in the country, government-funded, free at the point of need, publicly delivered,providing the best possible treatments.
“It was the first health system in any Western society to offer free medical care to the entire population. It was based on the national provision of services available to everyone.
Aneurin Bevan said “not only is it available to the whole population freely, but it is intended . . . to generalise the best health advice and treatment.”2 The intention was to make the same, high level of service available to all, according to need.”
So why is the NHS in our area, and in others, quite so bad this year?
The NHS today has been harmed by privatisation, the accountable care/ ICB model, and years of deliberate underfunding. When the ICB could not meet its financial targets, Price Waterhouse Cooper was brought in to give advice/ orders on how to reduce spending (make cuts). Price Waterhouse Cooper is a multi-national with significant interest in private health care and a player in the last decade of NHS history. PWC has regular and frequent meetings with the ICB and from the the references in the paperwork, appear to have a major influence.
The influence of PWC goes way beyond Cheshire and Merseyside ICB, they have national influence yet are a private, democratically unaccountable company.
At the start of the ICB meeting, the questions are read out and answered. Written answers are published later on their website. We get a chance to say a little, but enough for them to know the depth of our indignation about the cavalier way lives and dignity can be put at risk.
Our very lives, and the lives of our loved ones, depend on our healthcare, if not immediately then at some time in the future. We value immensely the work done by midwives, nurses, doctors, and all the other NHS workers.
However, in Winter 2024/2025 the damage done to our healthcare by years of austerity is costing lives and damaging our health. People must know what is happening, and how it can be improved.
When people organise together, we can make a difference, we can get change for the better and we can resist harmful change. This is a long-held tradition in Liverpool (but far wider too,) amongst working-class women’s organisations, trade unions and amongst socialists. It is this tradition that led to the founding of the NHS. But campaigners going to these ICB meetings only matter if a wider audience hears about what happens there. So please spread the news we share.
The NHS must be capable of coping with the winter surge in demand but the surge is not in itself caused by the NHS. Our homes are poorly insulated, our heating costs are sky high, many people have not had good healthcare for a long time and people are hard up, good food is expensive and food corporations are allowed to pump out food that overrides normal satiation levels, so its no surprise we get sick in the winter. It’s perfectly predictable and preventable. It is never a surprise. The ICB and the government should be making sure the hospitals can cope.
We have raised this with the ICB since before last winter. Our MPs must be telling the government to release funds to keep our people safe when they are ill.
Years of cuts in the number of beds, hospital closures, of poor workforce planning, have caused real damage. That is the problem, not the season.
These are our questions and their answers from the ICB
Re winter crisis in accident and emergency services
• What has been done to improve the situation from last year?
• Which hospitals face the greatest challenges this year?
The ICB response boils down to
Get patients out of the hospitals as fast as possible.
Stop people coming into the hospitals if there is anywhere else they can go.
Things will be bad.
Put managers into the worst situations (We would prefer that they put in more doctors, nurses, and healthcare assistants before the worst situations arise).
These are some parts of the reply. The full written reply can be seen here.
“It would be misleading to say that winter will pass without some real examples of where the service will fall short in terms of both public and service expectation.”
This is a cosy way of saying some patients and staff will come to harm, and some will die. The responsibility lies squarely with the government. The individuals from the ICB, responding to these questions, might or might not support the policies that lead to these preventable deaths.
“Like many other parts of the country. we have an urgent care system that is facing very real challenges on a daily basis and often falls short in terms of patient and staff experience, and winter only proves to exacerbate those challenges. In previous years additional monies have been provided nationally to provide further resilience but this year there is no expectation of that support. (Our emphasis)……….
“..there are robust improvement programmes which are wrapped around our main acute hospital footprints including primary care, community and mental health providers, and local authorities to tackle issues which manifest themselves within hospitals, most visibly at the emergency department and the ability for ambulance to respond in a timely manner. But we cannot ignore that each of these partner organisations also bear huge operational and clinical pressures……..”
“..during the year there has been significant investment in a new A&E at Arrowe Park, with further investment underway at Macclesfield and the Countess of Chester.”
“It would be misleading to say that winter will pass without some real examples of where the service will fall short in terms of both public and service expectation (our emphasis), and it is difficult to point to one or two hospitals that face the greatest pressure – the reality is that all parts of the system whether it be an acute hospital or other provider face extreme pressure at some time but we do have confidence that after many winters our staff and partners can and will provide the best response possible during this period of intensity”.
The Board is using a new term for corridor care, they call it “Temporary Escalation Spaces.” This is an attempt to normalise a terrible situation.
People who could have been saved will die, and others will suffer pain, discomfort, loss of dignity, and profound anxiety, because the “system” is not adequate for winter, which, after all, comes once a year.
“Theresa May’s plans to introduce means testing for the winter fuel allowance will lead to 3,850 extra pensioner deaths this winter, according to new Labour Party analysis.”
So, after 5 years of further austerity, COVID-19, and huge waiting lists for treatment, most pensioners have now lost their winter fuel payment. We know it is not the same Labour Party as in 2017, but how can they consciously allow possibly even more than 3,500 people to die?
Governments can provide the funds for NHS improvements. Between 2009 and 2020 Governments spent five times the cost of the NHS on ‘Quantitative Easing’ which made the already rich, much richer. Investment in the NHS would help everyone and make the economy grow.
Huge return on Government spending on Healthcare.
Healthcare spending ,when it gets to staff patients and the premises, (not to PWC and the like) gives huge return on the investment, but spending on healthcare in real terms has fallen, including spending per person in the North West.
Our NHS was founded after many decades of campaigning by ordinary working-class women and men, by trade unions, and by socialists. A driving force of the campaigns was to protect our people from unnecessary deaths, and unnecessary pain. The NHS was built to provide healthcare for all, provided by a national, publicly owned, and publicly provided organisation, funded by the government. The successes of the early years of the NHS were stunning. In maternity care there was huge progress, babies survived, and so many more women survived, giving birth.
For more detail on infant mortality please see this.
It is no surprise, therefore, that the NHS is a cherished institution, but it has been very badly damaged for more than a decade by policies and politicians who admire the US system. The ICB system was set up to imitate the Accountable Care Organisations in the USA.
The ICB system was designed to cut services and deny some treatments,
This report describes the NHS contractual system for denial of care, via financial incentives to NHS staff to cut services, which is modelled on the highly profitable operations of UnitedHealth and other US health systems.
The response to the murder of Brian Thompson in New York shows the deep hatred of America’s health system in the states, yet the USA business model is emulated in the NHS (as yet without the public idea of people being charged, quietly though more and more people are paying for their own treatment). We need the people who support universal healthcare, not-for-profit, nationally funded and provided, to get organised.
The NHS is managed at a national level by people deeply intertwined with the US Health system, typified by Simon Stevens, now in the House of Lords, making laws! The NHS management and their financial and political backers are experts at propaganda and sweet talk to hide and make terrible situations sound better.
We say restore and repair the NHS. There is huge support for this across the country. In 2019, when Trump said he wanted the NHS to be part of trade deals, more than 1 million people signed a petition against it.
The “integrated” Care Board is not integrated with social care as it purports to be. Social care is largely privatised, and often charges eyewatering fees to patients and their families. There are some Local Authority reps on the ICB, but the Local Authorities these days are little more than commissioning bodies for social care. Most social care is delivered by privately owned companies, for profit. Initiated by Thatcher, but pushed relentlessly by subsequent Governments, this policy is a disaster for our most vulnerable people.
“In adult social care, 96% of residential services are now outsourced, primarily to for-profit providers”..”Similarly, more than 80% of children’s homes are now run by for-profit companies,“
There are quality issues around these private providers and Co-author, Dr Benjamin Goodair (Department of Social Policy and Intervention, Oxford University) said: ‘Early data suggests that outsourcing has failed to deliver the expected benefits of private sector efficiencies. Instead, the use of profit-driven providers risks worsening care services. As both adult and children’s care sectors face ongoing crises, there is an urgent need for increased scrutiny over the outsourcing of social care.’
For years, the policy has been to close A and E services and cluster them in big hospitals. Southport or Ormskirk look next for the chop as a joint committee of two ICBs has been delegated the decision about their future.
Under funding, cramped conditions and Hospital Acquired Infections
Picture credit to Liverpool Echo last year
Our Acute and Emergency Hospitals are underfunded, understaffed and lack space and beds to treat patients safely. Staff, patients and family members know this from their own experience, but it is backed up by the rise in hospital-acquired infections (as reported on page 95 of the minutes of the Cheshire and Merseyside Integrated Care Board (November 2024).
NICE says ”The National Audit Office has suggested that hospitals with average bed occupancy levels above 85% can expect to have regular bed shortages, periodic bed crises and increased numbers of health care-acquired infections.57 Occupancy rates for acute beds have increased from 87.7% in 2010/11 to 89.5% in 2014/15 so few hospitals are achieving the 85% figure.57 High levels of bed occupancy may affect patient care as directing patients to the bed most suitable for their care is less likely to be possible.
Compared to other nations, the UK has a very low total number of hospital beds relative to its population. The average number of beds per 1,000 people in OECD EU nations is 5, but the UK has just 2.4. Germany, by contrast, has 7.8.
Our hospitals do not have enough beds or enough staff. Consequently patients are discharged as soon as possible but up to 26% can be readmitted within a month
campaigners watching an ICB meeting
The 2023/2024 NHS operational planning guidance recommends that hospital bed occupancy should not exceed 92%. Standards have slipped.
Finances
ICB funding from NHSE England comprises
Core services,
specialised services,
primary care.,
and pharmaceutical, ophthalmic and dental services.
The government and NHSE give the ICB various sums of money. It gives money for elective care, money for such specialist hospitals as have been devolved and money for the routine running of the providers (hospitals and out-of-hospital services, GPs, Dentistry.
Cheshire and Merseyside have the highest funding per head of population of any ICB. Nevertheless, they are in serious financial difficulties, as cuts are imposed Areas for savings/cuts include all age continuing care/complex care, mental health A and E/out of area placements.
The ICB provides the funding for the providers, i.e. the hospitals and organisations providing non-emergency medical care outside of hospitals (like Mersey Care Foundation Trust). The acute and emergency hospitals, and Liverpool Women’s Hospital too, are in financial difficulties. Foundation Trusts technically can go bankrupt which puts them under huge pressure to balance their books at any cost.
“In October, the average handover time for ambulances across England was 40 minutes and 21 seconds” The winter crisis is just one aspect of the damage to the NHS. Maternity, Gynaecology, Mental Health, the GP service, Dentistry all have problems and many are part-privatised.
Services, like audiology, are struggling to cope with the private sector taking the simple cases, leaving the NHS to deal with complex cases and training the next generation of doctors.
Bringing in PAs, and less qualified staff to do some doctors’ roles, is very unpopular and dangerous to life and limb.
It does not have to be this way. A better health service is possible and we need it. Our campaign demands the restoration and repair of our NHS, providing again the best health service in the world and making the NHS the best place to work in the world
We fight for Liverpool Women’s Hospital and to Restore and Repair the NHS.
Day by day, the NHS provides services for patients often with great skill and good humour. Despite years of cuts, the NHS survives but it cannot provide all services we need because of austerity and the privatisation agenda.
We are in grim times, but the fightback is growing. Our petition has reached 76,000 signatures. We have had support to pay for our leaflets and meetings. People who spoke at the engagement meetings unanimously supported keeping Liverpool Women’s Hospital. Not a single member of the public spoke in favour of closing it, or dispersing its services. We have great support from the public, and two Liverpool MPs, Kim Johnson and Ian Byrne, have helped this week. The same day as the ICB meeting and the first joint board meeting of LUHFT and Liverpool Women’s Hospital, Kim Johnson raised the issue in Parliament. Ian Byrne sent a great letter to the Engagement Team, saying “NO!”.
However, the process decided by NHS bureaucrats rolls on. We can stop it if we organise.
The many people who have said “that will never happen” should join the fight back.
Two quotes show the seriousness of the threat we face
At the October 9th meeting of the ICB Fiona Lemens, leading the process said, introducing the engagement, “It’s too early in the process to speculate about how services might look, in the future at the Crown St. site and across the city, because we’ve not started that design work yet, but what we can say is that we need that hospital at Crown St. The things that we could consider that we currently need space for would be out patients, day case procedures. We’ve invested in a CDC, we need that diagnostic capacity for the patients in Liverpool, and this is an excellent building to provide that from and we are absolutely committed to NHS delivered services being delivered from that site, and there are no plans to discuss any other forms of services going in there.”
So, Fiona, where will our babies be born? Where will the women of Liverpool receive their gynaecology care? Where will fertility go? Where will genetics go?Where will the Bradford clinic go?
The website for Liverpool Women’s Hospital says about the second strand in this threat to the integrity of the Women’s Hospital, the largest maternity facility in the country :
“From 1 November 2024, Liverpool Women’s NHS Foundation Trust became part of NHS University Hospitals of Liverpool Group (UHLG). UHLG has been created through the coming together of Liverpool University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (LUHFT) and Liverpool Women’s NHS Foundation Trust (LWH).
Please note, Liverpool Women’s Hospital is now represented on the Group Board of Directors of NHS University Hospitals of Liverpool Group (UHLG). Details of past Liverpool Women’s NHS Foundation Trust public board meetings can still be accessed via the links below.“
On Thursday 28th November 2024, two crucial meetings happened. These meetings were:
1) The ICB meeting which received the first report of the Engagement process to decide the future of the Liverpool Women’s Hospital, discussed the winter crisis, and how to handle their lack of adequate funds. We, as members of the public, asked questions. We were told that the first response to the engagement would be reported in February or March. They are paying £24,000 to a company called Hood and Woolf to produce the report on the engagement.
We also learned of the grim financial position, and the situation regarding the terrible winter crisis, likely to be worse than last year. There will be a full report on this in a later post.
2) The inaugural meeting of a new joint committee, which has the delegated powers of the boards of Liverpool Women’s Hospital and the Liverpool University Hospital Foundation Trust (which covers the Royal, Aintree and Broadgreen). We fear that maternity will be treated as badly as maternity has been treated in so many other big acute hospitals, leading to major problems and major enquiries.
This joint committee of LUHT and LWH, also reported that the winter crisis is starting (staff tell us it started a while ago). They also discussed services that might be moved to, or from, the Crown Street site although such moves were already a fait acomplis, and the integrity of a Women’s Hospital seemed to be already lost.
We think it’s wrong that while the ICB follows a protocol to consult on service changes, the merging of the hospitals had no consultation whatsoever, and precious little discussion at the Liverpool Women’s Hospital Board. We were told at the engagement meetings, that merging hospitals does not need public consultation. This huge change was just ‘steamrollered’ through. Merging the Women’s is just the start. The intention is that the specialist hospitals in Liverpool, the Clatterbridge Centre, the Walton Centre and Broadgreen Heart and Chest, will be pulled into an even bigger merger. In contrast to LUHFT, the specialist hospitals have been funded nationally and do not share the financial crises facing LUHFT. It seems odd to us that such major reconfigurations are not considered to require public consultation, while (albeit cruel) changes to such things as celiac prescriptions do. At the ICB it was announced that they are going out to public consultation on whether prescriptions should still be available for gluten-free products for celiacs (A Gluten-free loaf can cost as much as £3.99.) We think this cut is terribly wrong for people already hard up, and struggling for enough food. Many celiacs don’t ask for prescriptions but the damage of this policy will hit the poorest hardest. The Celiac prescriptions cut is yet another cut amongst many – but surely, if this merits consultation, so must merging hospitals?).
Our campaign wants a well-staffed, well-funded Women’s Hospital on the Crown Street site. We want maternity to be funded and staffed well across the UK. We say enough of maternity scandals, enough of birth trauma, and enough of closures and cuts. We say this for all our mothers, daughters, sisters, friends, lovers, and babies. So many other countries do so much better than the UK in maternity and infant mortality. Once we were up with the best but austerity has damaged the service costing many of our babies’ and mothers’ lives, and women’s health.
We have 76,000 signatures on our petition to save Liverpool Women’s Hospital. People sent in many postcards opposing the idea of closure, or dispersal of services as set out in the engagement.
You can read more about the “engagement” process here from Greg Dropkin of Keep Our NHS Public.
We want to restore and repair the whole NHS, and to stop the relentless”Winter Crises”.
The NHS was founded to provide:
A national public service providing healthcare for all, free at the point of need, government-funded, publicly run, and publicly delivered, with well-qualified staff. For decades it worked very well, being declared the best health service in the world. Now it is seriously damaged and must be repaired.
The NHS came from decades of campaigning by working-class women, like the Cooperative Women’s Guild, and the Trade Unions, not from the rich and powerful. If we want to keep it we too fight for it.
The NHS has seen reorganisation after reorganisation in favour of the American model, most recently the Integrated Care Model. The ICB for our area is called Merseyside and Cheshire ICB. This body controls the allocation of money to the hospitals and policy over cuts. Cheshire and Merseyside ICB, and other ICBs simply do not have enough money to function properly. They were conceived as part of a hospital closure project, to reduce the costs of the service and make it more acceptable to US health corporations take-overs. There are other hospital closure plans still going on, as well as the threat to Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
The ICB conducted an “engagement” with the public about the future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital. It was not well publicised but did include four in-person meetings for which they asked people to register. In all four meetings, their proposals were roundly rejected, but the attendance was small, very little effort was put into getting real engagement. We will write more about this in another post. None of the meetings were at a time suitable for working mothers to attend.
What you can do to help
Help with the campaign distribute leaflets and help getting the petition signed.
Raise it with your trade union, or other organisation
Tell your MP and councillor Liverpool Women’s Hospital must stay at Crown Street as a full women’s service run by experts in women’s health, in maternity and related services. Tell your MP that hospitals must cooperate not compete or merge.
Tell them that the winter crisis is unacceptable. Tell them that problems including finance, staffing, buildings and equipment must be sorted and the drain into private companies must stop.
Liverpool Women’s Hospital on the corner of Crown Street and Upper Parliament Street
Campaigners from many organisations say Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital, Restore and Repair the NHS. There are huge problems in the NHS. Maternity and women’s health are just two areas of great concern. In this situation, we say fight for better services, kick out the many privatisation projects, and restore our lost services. Poor, underfunded, fragmented healthcare wrecks a country’s economy, costs lives, and damages individuals and the staff of the service.
This is a quick-fire post responding to questions people have asked about the proposals for the future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
Is there really a threat to the future of Liverpool Women’s Hospital? Yes the ICB “engagement” is about Liverpool’s Hospitals’ Maternity and Gynaecological services. There are no other Maternity and Gynaecological services except those at Liverpool Women’s Hospital, so it is about the Women’s Hospital. At the ICB board on the 9th of October, when this “Engagement” was launched, moving all the services from the current site was discussed. This is the link to the “Public Engagement” about the future of Liverpool’s Hospital maternity and gynaecology services. After the “engagement” they will move on to “consultation”. This is part of the closure process and rarely stops, but a big campaign can still stop it.
Where will our babies be born? This plan does not say, but it does discuss moving services from the current hospital. We say “No!!! Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital on the Crown Street site and improve the services there.”
Why do we need women’s health care? Because women’s bodies are different from men’s bodies, because some (but not all) women give birth, because in the UK women’s health has been made worse by austerity, poverty, workplace stress, and pollution. There is a gender health gap. We live longer than men but have more years of ill health, and things are getting worse. It is crucial that women’s health is not subject to more cuts, but rather has massive investment. There is a Liverpool City Council report on women’s health deteriorating in Liverpool up to 2040 here. We campaign for women’s health and for health care for men too.
Where is the money coming from to reorganise women’s health care in Liverpool? There is no mention in the report, nor in the ICB paperwork. Without funding, this is a cut. Liverpool Women’s Hospital has, like other hospitals, been forced to make cuts, they are called ‘cost improvement plans’ but cuts they are, and cannot be made safely. How a massive reorganisation makes sense in this situation of underfunded semi-privatised health care, we do not know. This country can afford world-class healthcare. It is a political choice not to fund healthcare and leave it for the wolves of privatisation who take £10 million a week in profits from our NHS.
Is there money for these plans? No. None has been identified. Both the ICB and Liverpool Women’s Hospitals are underfunded to a serious degree. This is a problem across the NHS but acute for maternity services. For detail see here. Page 56 of the September board meeting gives more detail.
These plans are being led by the ICB. What is the ICB? The ICB is the Cheshire and Merseyside Integrated Care Board. It makes the financial and policy decisions for the NHS in the Cheshire and Merseyside area. The Conservative Health and Care Act 2022 set up forty-two such ICB areas covering the country. Originally they were called Accountable Care organisations. Accountable Care Organisations are an American system. They are intended to cut costs and services, particularly by reducing hospital services. Already this ICB has spent considerably in the private sector.
Is the ICB the same as the Trust? No, but the ICB decides how much money a hospital gets each year and can make policy decisions. A Trust runs hospitals. A trust is the legal body that makes decisions about the hospitals, or in some cases the out-of-hospital services, that it runs. Trusts started in 1991. Then Foundation trusts were brought in in 2004. The idea was that hospitals should run like competing operations. It was a system designed for the private sector to make money. It caused chaos. Lord Darzi’s report has been described as a fig leaf for the government. It describes how bad the situation is so few can now deny the problems. This outright competition is no longer expected, but the laws have not been fully changed. The Government tells National Health Service England what to do, and what it can spend, NHSE then tells the ICBs, and the ICBs tell the hospitals.
What will happen to the site if they take away babies and women? They do not say.
Why do these papers not explain the benefits of Liverpool Women’s Hospital being on a single site? We do not know, but it is a very odd procedure not to include the benefits and costs. The papers do not say what will happen to the Women’s Hospital’s role as a maternal medicine centre for the region, or as a tertiary hospital, which takes complex patients babies and women from other hospitals.
We used to have maternity services available in Fazackerley, Mill Road and Oxford Street. Why close Liverpool Women’s when these services were closed to make way for Liverpool Women’s? We don’t know, and the information published in this report does not make that clear. There were and are advantages to having one maternity hospital and Liverpool Women’s has been good not just for Liverpool women and babies, but as a point of reference for good practice for other Maternity services.
Why the focus on some extremely sick women and not on the thousands of babies born in Liverpool? We do not know. Obviously, sick women and babies are both important.
Staff working at the women’s do not seem to know about this. This is in the public domain. It is not a secret. The plans started ten years ago when the then-head of the CCG (a kind of forerunner of the ICB) announced on Panorama that there were too many hospitals in Liverpool. The next day the Echo said the Liverpool Women’s Hospital was to close. The current documents are similar to the documents produced previously. The original document “Future Generations” formed the basis of the (ridiculously expensive) Carnall Farrar report in 2022, and in turn, this document follows Carnall Farrar.
What’s this about a merger with the Royal, Aintree and Broadgreen? The Royal, Aintree, and Broadgreen formed the Liverpool Universities Hospital Foundation Trust (LUFHT)in October 2019. Liverpool Women’s is now working closely with the LUFT, and sharing a board. That has happened without any public consultation and little discussion at the public meetings of the board. It has not been led by the ICB but by the two trusts. The first joint board meeting is to be this month (November 2024). Legally, the two trusts still exist but have delegated their responsibilities. There was no public consultation on this. The hospitals plan to form a similar committee with the specialist hospitals, Clatterbridge, The Walton Centre and the Liverpool Heart and Chest. For now, it looks like the funding for the specialist hospitals will be ring-fenced, but eventually will be part of the ICB funding system“Today’s NHSE board paper says it will “ringfence” specialised commissioning allocations to ICBs which have the most severe financial problems, including “reserves and discretionary growth funding meaning they could not use it to support other services.” HSJ 7th Dec 2023. However, the joint committee of the hospitals in Liverpool will control finance and staffing for all the hospitals. Where will women’s health stand then? What about our babies? There is a real danger of funding meant for maternity and women’s health being pushed to the background as has happened for a decade nationally.
Can the services just go to the Royal? The Royal has had many problems, not least the loss of beds, ongoing building problems with the new building and the demolition of the old building. There is no room for 7,000 plus babies a year, nor thousands of Gynaecological treatments.
Is there going to be a new building? Highly unlikely, and we think not required. The NHS has a huge problem with building maintenance. Money for buildings is referred to as “capital” to distinguish it from day-to-day spending There is a £13.8 billion backlog, more than the whole capital budget for the year. Darzi’s report said there is a shortfall of £37billion in capital requirements. Some hospitals are practically falling down. Capital spending covers not just buildings but the most expensive equipment, such as intensive care beds (where the UK falls way behind Europe), and robotic surgery, which has excellent results in pain management and length of stay in hospital. Liverpool Women’s Hospital is a good building on a good site.
It is hard to get to Liverpool Women’s Hospital on the bus. What happened to the round the hospitals’ bus service? It was supposed to be every half hour. We are trying to find out. This will be updated when we find out.
How does this address the national maternity crisis? It does not address these issues, which are preventable baby deaths, harm to mothers giving birth and postnatally, funding of staffing, birth trauma for mums and babies, and immense stress for staff. Midwives have made their complaints loud and clear, but despite the many formal hearings into the issues, little progress has been made. Please see here for the list of reports on maternity. None of the hospitals mentioned in these tragic reports were standalone maternity hospitals. The UK does not get into the top twenty countries worldwide for the lowest infant mortality. One in seven maternity units have been closed in the last ten years despite fine talk about choice. The pressure in maternity wards is clear to see.
Is it worse to give birth now than a few decades ago? Yes. Maternal mortality has worsened in the UK. It is now more dangerous to give birth in the UK than it was in in1985 “In the United Kingdom of Great Britain And Northern Ireland, the maternal mortality ratio (per 100 000 live births) has worsened by 1.41 deaths per 100 000 live births from 8.43 [7.66 – 9.26] in 1985 to 9.84 [7.89 – 12.2] in 2020.” (see the link above for details).
Does the report on Liverpool’s hospital maternity and gynaecological services have data or comparators? No comparators, no impact assessment, no equalities assessment, no concrete data, no mention of the dreadful state of maternity finance or the state of the ICB finances. All we are given is unsupported assertions and broad generalisations.
Is the Liverpool Women’s Hospital really “isolated”? No, it is closer, by far, to the Royal,(just one mile down the road) than Broadgreen and Aintree are to the Royal Building or the other two hospitals, even though technically they are one hospital. Liverpool Women’s Hospital has worked as a system with other Cheshire and Merseyside hospitals since the Pandemic through CMAST and has mutual arrangements with other hospitals to operate or collaborate in other buildings, as they should. It is “isolated” in that it is a separate Foundation trust, not part of a bigger hospital but being part of a bigger hospital has far from protected maternity across the country.
Evidence of the financial problems in the ICBLobbying the ICB meeting on the 9th of October2024
Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital campaign was set up after the first attempt to close Liverpool Women’s Hospital nine years ago. We have attended all the public board meetings of the Women’s Hospital and board meetings of the ICB and studied their papers. We have attended conferences, run stalls, produced leaflets, run workshops, and produced this blog. We work closely with other NHS campaigns in Cheshire and Merseyside and nationally. Our campaigners include a range of ages, occupations, women and men, trade union members and pensioners.
The ICB ( integrated Care Board), which organises funding and policy for healthcare in Cheshire and Merseyside, announced the first stage of closing Liverpool Women’s Hospital on October 9th. In the past, we have won the battle to keep Liverpool Women’s Hospital open; we can win it again!
Who are we? We are a group of campaigners who have followed this issue since the first attempt to close Liverpool Women’s Hospital. We attend all the Liverpool Women’s Hospital Board and ICB meetings, ask questions, and read all their paperwork. We work with the other campaign groups for the NHS and with local trade unions. We are not a section of any political party.
This presentation was given at the Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital Workshop a few days after the ICB announced its plans for Liverpool Women’s Hospital. We hope it can now be seen by those who could not attend the meeting.
Please help save our hospital by talking to people about the women’s hospital and the NHS, signing our petition, writing to the ICB, talking to your MP, and raising it at your union or campaign organisation. Also, help give out our leaflets, posters, and banners.
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Other important issues face us as patients and staff in our health services in Cheshire and Merseyside and nationally, not least the so-called Winter Crisis, access to GPs and Dentists, the use of PAs under and unqualified staff, staff workload, and more.
We have too few beds, too few doctors, and a population made sicker by the denial of timely treatment.
The government has the power to change all this. Investment in healthcare, (when that investment reaches the patient and the staff, not some big corporation), is the best investment a government can make, with huge returns financially and socially.
I am writing to you as my MP. I support keeping Liverpool Women’s Hospital at Crown Street. Please intervene to keep Liverpool Women’s Hospital fully functioning on Crown Street. I don’t care how much Spire wants the site.
As an MP, you will know about the many reports on the problems in Maternity nationally and the issues with women’s health in these years of austerity. You know about the increased risk babies face at birth in areas of poverty like Liverpool. Surely you do not support cuts to Maternity services?
The hospital needs much better funding, and all hospitals should work together cooperatively. We have a national Maternity crisis. Closing Crown Street will make things worse for all our mothers, daughters, sisters, friends, lovers, and babies.
The NHS faces an appalling winter crisis in winter 24-25. Make sure the NHS is funded and equipped to save lives, not cost lives.
Hospitals should be organised as Nye Bevan intended, a cheaper more effective system than any the Thatcherites designed.
I oppose racism. In the year we have seen the worst race riots this century, closing Liverpool Women’s Hospital at Crown Street is a slap in the face for all anti-racists. That hospital is seen as a safe space. It was built not so long ago as part of the reparations for the racism of the past.
I would like an appointment to discuss this with you.
I am writing to tell you, as my MP, just how worried I and many others, are about the situation in the NHS in Cheshire and Merseyside. We ask that you intervene.
Lord Darzi said, “The British people rely on it ( the NHS) for the moments of greatest joy – when a new life comes into beingand those of deepest sorrow.”
The current plans and lack of plans for operating with this lack of resources in Cheshire and Merseyside will damage the moments of joy and increase those of deepest sorrow.
I draw your attention to the threat to Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
I have followed the meetings of the ICB and of Liverpool Women’s Hospital. The financial situation for both organisations is unacceptable. It is wrong that the place where so many babies are born is so short of the money required to operate day to day.
The start of the process of closing Liverpool Women’s hospital, from the meeting on October 9th, is very worrying and cannot be isolated from the general crisis in the NHS. Please consider the following points
Liverpool Women’s Hospital is valued by the women of Liverpool and the public, with seventy-five thousand people signing the petition to save Liverpool Women’s Hospital. There have been three big rallies on this topic. The closure of this hospital will further damage the health of women and babies in Liverpool and the wider area. It is a regional maternal medicine centre. It is a tertiary referral centre for gynaecology, performing approximately 10,000 procedures per year. Liverpool Women’s Hospital is seen by the women of Liverpool and beyond as a safe place in an era of growing violence against women and in the context of declining health amongst women, as the parliamentary report showed
The CQC describes Liverpool Women’s Hospital as safe. Despite several recent visits, the CQC did not raise any of the issues raised by the ICB report of 9 October. Other issues related to staffing and safety in maternity were raised, but this is one of the safer maternity units in the country.
The document presented to the ICB on October 9th technically started the pre-consultation engagement about moving Liverpool Women’s Hospital services from Crown Street. Yet it gives no explanation of where our babies will be born, where gynaecology or all the other services will move to, or the indication of capital to provide alternative premises. There is no risk assessment or impact assessment.
Nationally and locally, the experience of women giving birth has deteriorated and this has done much damage. There is a maternity crisis in the UK following years of underfunding, understaffing and the disastrous outcomes of the 2012 Health and Care Act, as described in the Darzi report. It is widely anticipated that another heart-breaking report on Maternity services from Donna Ockendon will be published next month, this time about Nottingham. No one working in or around Maternity can deny the existence of this crisis. In this situation, women are angry. The CQC’s September 2024 report on the maternity service nationally said https://www.cqc.org.uk/press-release/action-needed-now-prevent-harm-maternity-services-becoming-normalised
The staffing system at Liverpool Women’s Hospital and other NHS maternity services rests on Birthrate Plus, which urgently needs review. We need better services for the babies, the mothers and the staff. Mothers and babies need more attention, and only increased staff can deliver this.
Liverpool Women’s Hospital has serious financial problems, with a deficit of 19% recently reported. The Maternity tariff on which much of their income rests is inadequate, nationally and locally. This tariff level is a core driver of the national Maternity crisis. Liverpool Women’s Hospital is currently fully staffed with midwives, at least according to Birthrate Plus, thanks to the recruitment of newly qualified staff. As with the national service, the loss of older staff who left in disgust at the safety of the whole Maternity service leaves intense pressure on these new midwives.
The health of Liverpool’s babies must have priority, especially as childhood health in Liverpool, already damaged by poverty and pollution, is not mentioned.
Liverpool Women’s Hospital is based in Crown Street Liverpool 8. It was built as part of Project Rosemary, a gesture of reparation for the terrible racism that the area has suffered. To remove the hospital in the same year as the worst race riots in Liverpool since Charles Wooton was killed is truly a slap in the face for all anti-racists.
Liverpool Women’s Hospital is one mile from Liverpool Royal Hospital; it is not “isolated.” Other branches of Liverpool Universities Hospital Foundation Trust are much further away from each other, and patients move between these buildings. The 2012 and related legislation introduced the business model, making each hospital a competing entity with other hospitals. This must change. Hospitals must work cooperatively.
One risk mentioned in the ICB document is that deteriorating women cannot be managed at Liverpool Women’s Hospital, yet the trust board has reported major improvements in this. No hospital can guarantee never having to move a patient to another hospital. About 10,000 such moves happen annually in the NHS. At present there is not a critical care unit (CCU) available at LWH. There is a high dependency unit (HDU) at Crown Street and staff working on the gynaecology HDU have undertaken training for critical care.
Another risk mentioned in the document is that other hospitals in Liverpool do not have staff to deal with pregnancy or other gynaecological conditions. This must be addressed, but not by closing Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
Another risk mentioned is that services might be moved out of Liverpool if certain specifications are not met. But this report does not say where Liverpool’s babies will be born. Will that, too, be sent out of Liverpool?
Risk 4 discusses recruitment and retention difficulties. Midwives at LWH face no recruitment problems. The problems with other specialities are national, not local.
In the weirdest contradiction, Risk 5 says, “Women receiving care from hospital services, their families and the staff delivering care may be more at risk of psychological harm due to the current configuration of services.” Closing Liverpool Women’s Hospital will definitely risk psychological harm, as the place we see as safe is taken from us against huge popular opposition.
The engagement events are inadequate. Only two of these events are not in working hours, none are in North Liverpool or locally in central Liverpool. It requires time and some computer skills to register for them.
I also have serious concerns about the NHS winter crisis 2023-24, which the ICB has been clear will not be better than last year. The ICB is underfunded ( but spends too much on financial consultants and contracts, driven to do so by NHSE.) It is also under pressure to get the Liverpool Specialist Hospitals, Liverpool Heart and Chest, Liverpool Walton Centre and Clatterbridge Cancer Centre firmly into the cash-strapped ICB control. Liverpool Women’s Hospital is also partially funded through the specialist hospitals programme and is affected by this move from national to local funding.
I recall the announcement nine years ago that one Liverpool Hospital must close, and then it was announced that Liverpool Women’s Hospital was the one they had chosen. The chaos over Liverpool Royal New build and PFI, plus the pandemic, gave some breathing space, but the coming of the ICB and NHSE’s determination to reduce the number of hospitals in Liverpool have brought this back to the table.
I would like to discuss this with you personally.
For all our mothers, daughters, sisters, friends, lovers and babies, Save Liverpool Women’s Hospital
These are notes from Lesley Mahmood and Sheila Altes, who gave the first responses to the proposals from the public presented at the ICB meeting on October 9th 2024. A more detailed response is being prepared. The ICB is the “Integrated Care Board” the big bosses of the NHS in Cheshire and Merseyside. You can find their papers here. The recording does not show the questions and contributions from the public but you can see some of those contributions on another post on this blog.
Points & questions for the ICB’s public meetings
(ALWAYS SAY YOU WANT YOUR COMMENTS NOTED IN DETAIL)
HOW & WHEN HAVE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS BEEN ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC?
“I want to question the whole basis of this meeting, this process and the nature of this ‘consultation.’
“Losing LWH at Crown St has been the ambition of NHS decision makers since March 2015 when the then chair of the CCG on Panorama stated Liverpool has too many hospitals & 1 has to go. The Echo had a story about it the day before. The day after the Panorama programme, the Echo’s lead story was the Women’s Hospital to close. That’s when our campaign started.
This 2024 ‘proposal’ is against the backdrop of closures of hospitals, A & Es, 1,000s of beds up & down the country. Some of these same decision makers told us that the Royal PFI/Carillion build with PFI & 300 fewer beds, a smaller A& E would meet the needs of Liverpool. Instead, we had massive debt, delays, A& E overwhelmed, 12-hour waits, and corridor care.
Why avoid saying what’s to become of the Crown St site (on p.109 of the ICB document)?
In the last 12 months the ICB has indicated that £150m+ for an equivalent new build on the site of the old Royal is ‘unlikely’ ‘n the next 10 years. £150m is the deficit of the ICB. In Cheshire & Merseyside, Leighton is the only likely new hospital, which is falling in due to its crumbling concrete.
So where’s the capital ( the money for buildings and costly equipment), or will we have 1 or 2 small Maternity wards tacked on somewhere? This will cause the ethos of the Women’s Hospital to be lost.
What will replace LWH at Crown St? It’s not good enough to say it will be used by the NHS; who will provide them, private companies like Spire/ Spa Medica? Under the Naylor Report, surplus’ and not fit for purpose NHS buildings or land is to go up for sale. We have been told by staff in Spire that Spire is very interested in Crown St.
Why should a £15m new neonatal unit & a new scanning unit of several £m be scrapped?
Women in Liverpool 8 & beyond regard LWH at Crown St as a safe space, a green space (good for recovery & mental health), a low rise, easy to get into in an emergency, especially valued by the L8 community, who regarded the LWH being developed at Crown St as part of Project Rosemary after the Toxteth Uprising of 1981 as some compensation. The wife of the Dean of Liverpool signing our petition recently said -he was 1 of the people responsible for Project Rosemary. The LWH is also valued by the other 75,000 people who have signed our petition.
There’s no mention of the positive impact of LWH being based at Crown St. On p.107, it is claimed that Crown St means worse gender inequality. Where is the evidence for this? On p.63, for instance, the maternal mortality is in line with national data and where is the equality impact assessment referred to on p.110?
The ICB document talks about 5 risks at Crown St, I want to question these.
RISK 1. Acutely deteriorating women cannot be managed onsite at Crown Street reliably, which has resulted in adverse consequences and harm.
( We know this experience can be horrible for the women involved)
The paper cites the cause as a lack of onsite services and specialist staff, e.g. critical care, medical and surgical specialities and 24/7 blood transfusion labs. At present, there is not a critical care unit (CCU) available at LWH, but there is a high dependency unit (HDU) at Crown Street and staff at the gynaecology HDU have undertaken training for critical care.
The Core Standards for Intensive Care Units (2013) state that it is preferable to have an intensive care unit on site, but units without such a provision must have an arrangement with a level 3 CCU and a policy for the safe transfer of patients when required. LWH has such an arrangement with the Royal Liverpool University Hospital (RLUH) which is situated 1.3 miles away.
A lack of medical and surgical specialities was also cited. A Medical Emergency Care Team is being recruited to enable optimal care and transfers if necessary. LWH is also participating in the “deteriorating patient collaborative” to improve earlier recognition of clinical deterioration. There are clinical pathways in place for the acutely unwell/critically ill pregnant or recently pregnant woman. Women with complex needs are seen at specialist clinics, where a consultant obstetrician and consultant in the relevant specialism will plan the treatment necessary to ensure optimal care. LWH is the recognised provider of high-risk Maternity care and complex gynaecology procedures in Cheshire and Merseyside. Emergencies will inevitably occur, and a transfer to a CCU will be needed. Inter hospital transfers of critically ill adults take place frequently, it is estimated that 10,000 of such transfers take place annually in the UK (BJN 22/04/21).
A 24/7 Blood Transfusion lab is to be developed at the Crown Street site. As well as the extension of some laboratory services.
Given all of these developments and the small number of patients being transferred to CCU (see page 46 of the Case for Change), why does the ICB consider co-location necessary, especially in a time of financial restraint?
RISK 2: When presenting at other acute sites (e.g. A&E), being taken to other acute sites by ambulance or being treated for conditions unrelated to their pregnancy or gynaecological condition on other sites, women do not receive the holistic care they need.
Board papers state that the risk is caused by a lack of women’s services and specialist staff at other sites in Liverpool. However, it is difficult to see how re-location would solve this if LWH is re-located to the RLUH; women are still likely to turn up at the Aintree site and vice versa.
Is the ICB looking at Maternity and gynaecology services at 2 different sites? How will this fit with LWH as a Maternal Medicine Centre (MMC)?
LWH has its own Emergency Department with much shorter waits than the Royal/Aintree A&Es, if LWH is moved, will its Emergency Department close and women have to queue up in the general A&Es?
This dispersal of services would not fit with the ethos of a specialist hospital for women, and that surely would be a gender inequality, as women’s health differs from that of men in many unique ways. It is influenced by biology and conditions such as poverty, employment and family responsibilities. Women’s reproductive and sexual health have a distinct difference compared to men’s health. (Cardiovascular disease, common to men and women, can lead to pre-eclampsia in a pregnant woman. Sexually transmitted infections can cause such outcomes as stillbirth or neonatal death. Other issues impacting women’s health include unplanned pregnancy, non-consensual sexual activity, domestic violence and female genital mutilation). Centres of excellence in women’s health, such as LWH, can advance research and large-scale clinical trials to address these issues, but the dispersal of services cannot.
RISK 3: Risk 3: Failure to meet service specifications and clinical quality standards in the medium term could result in a loss of some women’s services from Liverpool.
Maternal Medical Centres (MMC) are responsible for ensuring that all women on the network’s footprint with significant medical problems will receive timely specialist care and advice before, during, and after pregnancy. LWH has been selected as one of 3 MMCs within the North West, along with St. Mary’s Hospital in Manchester and the Royal Preston Hospital in Lancashire. The model of care ensures that the highest risk and most complex women will have most of their care delivered by the MMC.
No hospital in the UK is equipped to deal with every eventuality. Therefore, it is inevitable that patients sometimes have to travel outside their area.
At present, women with complex congenital heart conditions are sometimes treated in Manchester. The RLUH cannot deal with some complex bowel surgery, and patients sometimes have to travel to the Christie Hospital also in Manchester. Yet, there are no questions about relocating the Royal, so why the Women’s Hospital?
Risk 4: Recruitment and retention difficulties in key clinical specialities are exacerbated by the current configuration of adult and women’s services in Liverpool.
Recruitment and retention of staff is a national crisis in the NHS as a whole and not just in Maternity services.
There has been a 9-year threat to reconfigure services at LWH, which may have hurt recruitment.
As a teaching hospital, LWH is a centre of excellence in the provision of undergraduate and postgraduate medical education and training. LWH has a highly active multidisciplinary research programme that includes research into Maternity studies, gynaecology studies, fertility studies, genetics, oncology and neonatal studies.
The claim that the difficulties in recruitment are caused by an inability to provide comprehensive multidisciplinary team working and training on acute sites makes Liverpool Women’s Hospital a less attractive place to work is hard to believe. We favour joint appointments and joint working to provide comprehensive training and development opportunities.
Governments have deliberately reorganised and underfunded the NHS. There is a national Maternity crisis. Maternity nationally has historically been underfunded through the Maternity tariff. This affects LWH particularly. So, fund it, don’t lose it!
RISK 5: Women receiving care from hospital services, their families and the staff delivering care may be more at risk of psychological harm due to the current configuration of services.
In a time of increased misogyny, violence towards women and austerity policies that disproportionately affect women, LWH is seen by all women of all ethnicities, as a safe place for women.
For the last 14 years, NHS staff have been underpaid, overworked, and undervalued, conditions exacerbated by the pandemic that still continue. The Ockenden review highlighted these issues throughout the country, so psychological problems are not exclusive to the Women’s Hospital.
In a recent staff survey for the LWH Board, 49% of staff feeling negative about their work said they felt overworked. (p.24 People Pulse report, LWH Board papers 10.10.24)
Ockenden called for more staff, more midwives, and more Maternity funding. We need more midwives & we need to keep experienced midwives to support newer midwives.
On the 9th and 10th of October, there were two developments about Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
The Integrated Care Board, the funding and organising body for Cheshire and Merseyside NHS, agreed to start the process that can lead to the closure of Liverpool Women’s Hospital. We think this will damage care for women and babies. We have had enough of hospital closures and shortages of hospital beds.
The final meeting of the Liverpool Women’s Hospital Board was held. In future, the decisions about LWH will be made at a joint meeting of the board of Liverpool Women’s Hospital Trust and the board of Liverpool Universities Hospital Trust. Behind this is the appalling state of finances for maternity care nationally, especially for Liverpool Women’s Hospital, the largest Maternity provider in the country.
While these changes are being debated, the Women’s Hospital stays on the Crown Street site and continues functioning.
You have a right to say “No.” Never forget that right to say NO!
The NHS must listen to the people. We need your voice. These proposals do not discuss finances, nor do they discuss where our babies will be born in future or what will happen to the current Liverpool Women’s Hospital site on Crown Street. They just legally clear the way to close Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
Liverpool Women’s Hospital is where most of Liverpool’s babies are born. It is the largest centre for Cheshire and Merseyside for gynaecology and women’s health. It also provides other services in a good building on a pleasant green site. Liverpool Women’s Hospital has far less traffic around it than does the new Royal. One of the reasons given for closing Liverpool Women’s is that other hospitals don’t provide safely for women who happen to be pregnant. Those hospitals should be improved, not used as an excuse for closing Liverpool Women’s Hospital.
NHS England wants all hospitals in the envelope of the ICB system rather than having specialist hospitals with favourable specialist funding given nationally. This affects The Heart and Chest Hospital at Broadgreen, the Walton Centre and the Clatterbridge Cancer Centre. This follows the US Accountable Care Model.”Accountable care organizations (ACOs) were created to promote health care value by improving health outcomeswhile curbing healthcare expenditures” They were designed for healthcare provided by private for-profit corporations, not for a public service system like the NHS.
Within Cheshire and Merseyside ICB, there are “Places” These places are the groups of NHS services within each local government area. Liverpool Place is responsible for all these hospital reconfigurations even though each hospital serves an area wider than Liverpool.
According to many different reports and our own experiences, we have a Maternity crisis and a crisis in women’s healthcare. NHS problems, though extreme for women, are not exclusive to Maternity and women’s health care but extend to A&E, the GPs, dentistry, mental health, the considerable waiting lists for treatment and much more.
We are holding a workshop at 7pm on Monday 14th October at the Quaker Meeting House School Lane Liverpool behind Primark in the city centre. It will also be available via Zoom. Please register here. You do not need to be an expert to come to this workshop; you just need to be a human who cares about safe healthcare as public service or is interested in the issues.
The ICB is in financial difficulty caused by underfunding and by money sucked out through privatisation. Below is the ‘heat map’ of risks facing the Cheshire and Merseyside ICBs. Black 20 is the highest risk level. This is from the ICB public papers for the September meeting.
Maternity and women’s health have been underfunded and under-staffed for the whole time the Conservatives were in office. This must change. We did kick that government out. Remember?
We need improvements at Liverpool Women’s Hospital and the other hospitals in Merseyside and Cheshire. We need funding for the winter crisis. The prospects for the winter crisis look bleak. The ICB should be spending money on the winter crisis and improving our services, not closing services.
The ICB will hold public engagement meetings in the next six weeks about the ICB’s plans to close Liverpool Women’s Hospital. As we write this, we have no idea where or when the meeting will be held. Please do go to these meetings if you can. Do not be afraid to say NO!
The whole NHS is in crisis. The general election has not (yet!?)solved this situation for the NHS. It is still underfunded and still being restructured toward final privatisation.
The winter crisis is set to be worse than last year’s estimated 300 excess deaths per week. People will have more pain and more time being unwell. More people who would not otherwise die will do so unnecessarily. Yet all of Liverpool, Merseyside and most of Cheshire voted Labour. Tell your MP to solve this situation to stop the damage to the NHS. They have the power to do so if they have the political will.
There is a significant difference between the management of the NHS nationally and at the Integrated Care Board level and the work of NHS staff who treat us as patients. We can disagree with NHS bosses and national, regional, and ICB managers without disrespecting the NHS workforce, doctors, midwives, nurses and all the other roles in the NHS who do great work under challenging conditions.
Do not wait until the winter or Maternity crises hit your loved ones.
Join us in the campaign to Restore and Repair the NHS.
What you can do
Talk to your friends, family and workmates about the NHS. Every powerful campaign starts with talk.
Remind people that health care strengthens an economy and makes people healthier and happier. No economy can be strong with millions unable to work while they wait for treatment. We must afford good health care for all our mothers, daughters, sisters, friends, lovers and all the babies. Each person is born just once. We have to make birth as safe as humanly possible, which is safer than the UK currently manages. The UK are 18th in the safety ranks. Once we were up at the top.
Go to the so-called public engagement meeting the NHS is organising to sweet talk you into agreeing with their cuts and tell them what you think; don’t just be disgusted; tell them so!
Raise the state of the NHS with your union. This can be powerful.
Email your MP or get an appointment to see them.
Talk to your councillor. They have a role in this through the Place Partnership board.
Sign our petition.
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